These pads are good quality construction and can take a beating. The only thing I am not a fan of is the neoprene sleeve. After long training sessions it traps in sweat. Regardless of if you put the sleeve on or not it still feels like you have a wool sweater on your forearm and is completely soaked after a few rounds. I know some people like it but im not a fan. thats why i give it a four and not a five.